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		<title>Barb: /* Security Server */</title>
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				<updated>2013-11-01T17:32:19Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Security Server&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There was a request for an option to disallow multiple users with the same profile name. It was&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There was a request for an option to disallow multiple users with the same profile name. It was&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;suggested this could be done thru a check box on the Security Server UI.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;suggested this could be done thru a check box on the Security Server UI.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Grant reported he believed he had a way to double up on a Comet license from his virtual PC running&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;on the same machine as the Security Server host where Comet is also running.&amp;nbsp; This appears to be&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;because both clients are assigned the same IP address.&amp;nbsp; This requires further investigation.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Greg requested a way to assign a different port for use by the Security Server, perhaps in the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Greg requested a way to assign a different port for use by the Security Server, perhaps in the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Barb: /* General Comet Discussion */</title>
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				<updated>2013-11-01T14:00:28Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;General Comet Discussion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The .476 release of Comet will now make use of an optional Windows environment variables for your&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The .476 release of Comet will now make use of an optional Windows environment variables for your&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Comet installation: %COMETPROGS% and %COMETDATA%.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Comet installation: %COMETPROGS% and %COMETDATA%.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;COMETPROGS - For Comet programs - tells Comet.exe where to copy the executables to&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;COMETPROGS - For Comet programs - tells Comet.exe where to copy the executables to&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;COMETDATA -&amp;nbsp; For Comet data files such as CosW.ini and the logs&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;COMETDATA -&amp;nbsp; For Comet data files such as CosW.ini and the logs&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;By default, Comet uses folders under AppData\Local.&amp;nbsp; This new optional method can be useful for those&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;By default, Comet uses folders under AppData\Local.&amp;nbsp; This new optional method can be useful for those&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;installations using roaming profiles.&amp;nbsp; This option was added at the request of LOCIS.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;installations using roaming profiles.&amp;nbsp; This option was added at the request of LOCIS.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Barb: /* Comet Anywhere Mobile */</title>
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				<updated>2013-10-31T23:05:07Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Comet Anywhere Mobile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;documentation about the view types and various controls.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;documentation about the view types and various controls.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Louisa also said she would need access to the iPad's GPS and camera &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(or photo stream) &lt;/del&gt;for&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Louisa also said she would need access to the iPad's GPS and camera for a project she expects&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;a project she expects to do for DGR.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;to do for DGR&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Justin explained it may be easier to gain access to the camera roll rather&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;than the camera because we'd have to write an whole camera app to do that&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Barb demoed the invoicing app she wrote for the Kauai Beer Company.&amp;nbsp; Attendees with iPads&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Barb demoed the invoicing app she wrote for the Kauai Beer Company.&amp;nbsp; Attendees with iPads&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Barb at 22:26, 31 October 2013</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Justin talked about the latest changes to the API and changes required for iOS 7.&amp;nbsp; You can&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Justin talked about the latest changes to the API and changes required for iOS 7.&amp;nbsp; You can&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;find out the details &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;at &lt;/del&gt;[[http://www.signature.net/download/mobile/]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;find out the details &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;here &lt;/ins&gt;[[http://www.signature.net/download/mobile/]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The API is currently distributed as a pre-release product and is not available thru iTunes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The API is currently distributed as a pre-release product and is not available thru iTunes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Therefore the UDID of each device participating in the testing must be compiled into the app.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Therefore the UDID of each device participating in the testing must be compiled into the app.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Barb at 22:25, 31 October 2013</title>
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		<title>Barb: Created page with &quot;==CometAnywhere Mobile==  Justin talked about the latest changes to the API and changes required for iOS 7.  You can find out the details at [[http://www.signature.net/downlo...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;==&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php/CometAnywhere_Mobile&quot; title=&quot;CometAnywhere Mobile&quot;&gt;CometAnywhere Mobile&lt;/a&gt;==  Justin talked about the latest changes to the API and changes required for iOS 7.  You can find out the details at [[http://www.signature.net/downlo...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==[[CometAnywhere Mobile]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Justin talked about the latest changes to the API and changes required for iOS 7.  You can&lt;br /&gt;
find out the details at [[http://www.signature.net/download/mobile/]]&lt;br /&gt;
The API is currently distributed as a pre-release product and is not available thru iTunes.&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore the UDID of each device participating in the testing must be compiled into the app.&lt;br /&gt;
There is a limit of 100 UDIDs so if many more customers want to participate we may have to&lt;br /&gt;
make multiple copies of the app, or even copies specifically for any large customer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Louisa requested more comprehensive documentation examples and information about how to&lt;br /&gt;
design for the environment.  Justin offered to research and suggest a couple of links to&lt;br /&gt;
documentation about the view types and various controls.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Louisa also said she would need access to the iPad's GPS and camera (or photo stream) for&lt;br /&gt;
a project she expects to do for DGR.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Barb demoed the invoicing app she wrote for the Kauai Beer Company.  Attendees with iPads&lt;br /&gt;
were able to participate in the demo by running the app from the mobile account on our&lt;br /&gt;
cc32 CA host.  You can see screenshots and download the KBC programs and&lt;br /&gt;
source here [[http://wiki.signature.net/index.php/KBC_demo_app]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Windows API and Support for Other Mobile Platforms]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grant requested we make a WDL32 that could take advantage of Comet32's long strings. He has&lt;br /&gt;
an issue with data begin truncated due to the string length limitation in Comet16.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was discussion about updating the Windows API to use the Comet32 proc compiler so that&lt;br /&gt;
IB programs will be easier to develop and read.  The benefits of this are evident when comparing&lt;br /&gt;
programs written for the Windows API to those written for the iOS API.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was discussion about supporting other mobile platforms.  Justin reported that prior to&lt;br /&gt;
implementing the iOS API he had spent months testing out a solution for Android.  The programming&lt;br /&gt;
language used for this is Java and he found that it did not easily adapt to our file-system-based&lt;br /&gt;
applications.  Android development is also complicated by the number of variations in both hardware&lt;br /&gt;
and software versions.  Windows Metro may be the next platform to consider.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[XAP and SSL]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Stan reported problems passing COMMON between XAP programs in Comet32.  Jim explained he had&lt;br /&gt;
recently been working on this and perhaps it still needed more work.  It is a very complicated&lt;br /&gt;
part of Comet32, numerics are particularly tricky, as is passing between Comet16 and Comet32&lt;br /&gt;
objects.  Jim suggested concatenating all of COMMON into one long string and/or leaving XAP&lt;br /&gt;
programs as Comet16 objects rather than recompiling with Comet32.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
COMMON storage is done differenly in Comet32 than in Comet16.  Comet16 stored COMMON in temp files&lt;br /&gt;
in the COS folder.  Comet32 keeps them in memory.  Louisa suggested Stan use cookies instead of&lt;br /&gt;
COMMON.  Steve says another option is to use hidden fields instead of COMMON.  Both of them&lt;br /&gt;
indicated that their methods had been trouble-free.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
XAP in Comet32 has some new features including the ability to get the entire http header and the&lt;br /&gt;
post data passed from the brower.  Comet32's longer strings make this possible.  You can get&lt;br /&gt;
more info on these and other enhancements here [[http://wiki.signature.net/index.php/Xap2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was reported that if an XAP program compiles with an error and then someone attempts to run it,&lt;br /&gt;
the program file (which is SEQ because of the compilation errors) is left open.  It will require&lt;br /&gt;
investigation to determine whether it is XAP or the file server which is doing this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was a question about the status of native SSL in Comet32 XAP.  This was discussed at the&lt;br /&gt;
meeting in New Orleans.  Brian reported that we had started working on it but that some&lt;br /&gt;
problems had surfaced and further work was stopped.  One issue is that it needs to be able to&lt;br /&gt;
listen on 2 ports to be able to support both http and https.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frank Caton reported daily crashes on his Comet16 XAP server.  While he has not been able to&lt;br /&gt;
narrow down the circumstances around these events he said there is also a batch process going on&lt;br /&gt;
to copy files to the server.  He's going to move that process to another machine to see if the&lt;br /&gt;
crashes continue or follow the batch job.  Jim also suggested looking at the XAP log to see what&lt;br /&gt;
the last activity was prior to the crash.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frank also reported that his SSL process just stops occasionally.  Jim advised that this is very&lt;br /&gt;
difficult to debug.  He suggested manually starting it from cmd.exe so that if it&lt;br /&gt;
shuts down he'll see it in the command prompt window.  Alternatively try running it hidden.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Security Server]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Virtual Dongle Server was announced.  Instead of having a dongle plugged in to your server&lt;br /&gt;
the Security Server software will validate your licenses by connecting to our corporate dongle server.&lt;br /&gt;
To use this method you must sign a new EULA and return your hardware dongle to us.  Plug swapping fees&lt;br /&gt;
apply.  The new EULA contains a paragraph stating that you will maintain a reliable internet&lt;br /&gt;
connection so that the Security Server will be able to connect to our dongle server at unspecified&lt;br /&gt;
intervals.  Here's a link to the EULA: [[http://www.signature.net/download/End%20User%20License%20Agreement.pdf]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Generous tolerances have been coded to allow for those occasional unavoidable ISP and hardware&lt;br /&gt;
downtimes on both sides.  Jim made the promise that if Signature Systems decides to go out of business&lt;br /&gt;
he would release a version of the Security Server for virtual dongle users that will continue to work&lt;br /&gt;
even after the dongle server has been taken out of service.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Virtual Dongle Server will be available in the Server Products 13.00 release.  To install your&lt;br /&gt;
virutal dongle you will receive an email containing a file called DRB.txt.  It looks something like&lt;br /&gt;
the current license certificate file.  Place the DRB.txt in your Comet Services folder, then restart&lt;br /&gt;
the Comet Services.  (If you have a hardware dongle be sure to remove it first.)  Registration of your&lt;br /&gt;
dongle may require several seconds as it will connect to both the dongle server and then the certificate&lt;br /&gt;
server to retrieve and install the certificate for your new dongle.  Once installed, you maintain your&lt;br /&gt;
licenses as you always have.  Anytime you make changes to your Comet licenses you will receive a new&lt;br /&gt;
license file just as you do now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg asked if you'd be required to install a new virtual dongle if you went thru a Windows upgrade&lt;br /&gt;
on your server.  Brian replied you shouldn't unless you did a total reinstall which would wipe out&lt;br /&gt;
the registry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other Security Server discussions...  It was reported that if someone does not shutdown Comet&lt;br /&gt;
properly the licenses they were using are not being returned to the pool, even if that user&lt;br /&gt;
reconnects.  There was a request for some way to manually log a user out of the server.  Jim suggested&lt;br /&gt;
something that could be run from a Comet client like SECLIC.  It would have to log them out of&lt;br /&gt;
the file server also.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was a request for an option to disallow multiple users with the same profile name. It was&lt;br /&gt;
suggested this could be done thru a check box on the Security Server UI.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grant reported he believed he had a way to double up on a Comet license from his virtual PC running&lt;br /&gt;
on the same machine as the Security Server host where Comet is also running.  This appears to be&lt;br /&gt;
because both clients are assigned the same IP address.  This requires further investigation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg requested a way to assign a different port for use by the Security Server, perhaps in the&lt;br /&gt;
SERVER section of the Comet.ini.  After some discussion I believe this request was withdrawn as&lt;br /&gt;
another solution to their problem was proposed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Comet32 Compiler]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grant requested that the Program Memory Requirements be displayed in the UE output window just as&lt;br /&gt;
they were when using the Comet16 compiler.  This would include byte counts for COMMON, LOCAL,&lt;br /&gt;
CONSTANTS, FORMATS, and CODE.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was a general concensus to create the .LST file (created when using OPT L) in the TMP folder&lt;br /&gt;
instead of in the source file folder.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was a request to get just errors listed to the .LST file (like OPT E).  This would be &lt;br /&gt;
especially useful for those compiling outside of UltraEdit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One report of an issue with the Comet16 compiler came from Robert.  He claims a program may&lt;br /&gt;
compile without errors even if it's a few bytes larger than the size limit.  These programs&lt;br /&gt;
have problems at runtime.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Printing]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Stan reports that his Comet32 users occasionally have problems with CosP hanging up and staying&lt;br /&gt;
active even after Comet has been stopped.  This requires him to manually shut it down thru the&lt;br /&gt;
Windows Task Manager.  Brian reported that this is probably due to CosP waiting for something&lt;br /&gt;
for which it never got a response.  Stan requested that we kill off any remaining instances of&lt;br /&gt;
CosP when Comet is starting up.  Brian will look in to this.  If this works perhaps we should&lt;br /&gt;
consider automatically killing off other left over pieces of Comet that will prevent us from&lt;br /&gt;
starting successfully.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was a general concensus that customers are happy with Comet PDF.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grant pointed out that Comet PDF files are larger than those produced by other products.  Jeff&lt;br /&gt;
suggested he look at the printer properties and adjust the dpi to reduce the file size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grant requested there be an option to turn off the tray notification from Comet PDF.  He says&lt;br /&gt;
it becomes annoying and slows the process down when printing several documents in a row.  Others&lt;br /&gt;
agreed and we will make this the default.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grant reported that he can't print to more than one Comet PDF printer in a program, while PDF&lt;br /&gt;
Factory allowed him to do this.  Jeff tried it in the meeting on Windows 8 and said it worked.&lt;br /&gt;
Windows 8 has a different version of the Bullzip driver.  Brian reported that it seems a few&lt;br /&gt;
problems were addressed by the new driver and perhaps even non-Windows 8 users should install it.&lt;br /&gt;
We will look in to changing our install program to do this.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Steve reported that PDF Factory currently has a bug that can cause Comet to get an E30.&lt;br /&gt;
You must reboot to recover from this.  PDF Factory is aware of the problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jeff shared a trick for embedding &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; text in a pdf file.  One advantage to writing to&lt;br /&gt;
PDF files in cooked mode is the ability to change font, size, and color.  Besides the obvious&lt;br /&gt;
purposes for using this, its also useful for 'hiding something in plain sight' in the PDF file.&lt;br /&gt;
Setting the font color to a very dark grey, and choosing a very small font size can be useful for&lt;br /&gt;
embedding information in a horizontal line.  Or choosing a font just slightly off white can&lt;br /&gt;
allow you put data anywhere in a pdf.  Very small fonts, such as .7 are undetectable to the&lt;br /&gt;
naked eye, or on a printout.  But zooming way in on a specific area when viewing a PDF file&lt;br /&gt;
will make the data easily readable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Email Printing]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim reminded everyone that Comet32 can do TLS to send email thru providers that require&lt;br /&gt;
authentication beyond a user name and password.  To use this, put tls=true in your email.ini.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Louisa recommended adding PAUSE 10 after closing the email printer when sending multiple emails.&lt;br /&gt;
Steve says he does PAUSE 9.  Obviously a PAUSE of some duration is in order ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim reminded everyone they can use the SILENT command to get notified of any email error rather&lt;br /&gt;
than have the error message displayed to the user.  The SILENT command is added to your email.ini.&lt;br /&gt;
You may also optionally specify a program to be entered each time an error is encountered. In that&lt;br /&gt;
case, # buffer will contain the error information (the text that would normally appear in the&lt;br /&gt;
message box.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frank Caton reported problems using SENDMAIL.  The solution is to convert to EmailPtr.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[General Comet Discussion]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The .476 release of Comet will now make use of an optional Windows environment variables for your&lt;br /&gt;
Comet installation: %COMETPROGS% and %COMETDATA%.&lt;br /&gt;
COMETPROGS - For Comet programs - tells Comet.exe where to copy the executables to&lt;br /&gt;
COMETDATA -  For Comet data files such as CosW.ini and the logs&lt;br /&gt;
By default, Comet uses folders under AppData\Local.  This new optional method can be useful for those&lt;br /&gt;
installations using roaming profiles.  This option was added at the request of LOCIS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg reported they have a lot of complaints about AVG generating false positive reports against the&lt;br /&gt;
Comet executables.  Brian suggested that we might be able to solve this by digitally signing our&lt;br /&gt;
products.  Jim had looked in to this in the past and was deterred by the cost involved.  We will&lt;br /&gt;
revisit this issue.  Another possibility is to submit our executables for whitelisting by AVG.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg requested that we automatically open the firewall ports required for Comet.  Our position on&lt;br /&gt;
this is that it is the responsibility of the local administrator to manage the firewall, not us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg requested a method for specifying a program to be run before Comet starts up, perhaps call it&lt;br /&gt;
CometDealer.exe.  Jim suggested that instead they change their Comet shortcut to run that program&lt;br /&gt;
and have it conclude by running Comet.exe.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Along the same lines, Robert asked if we had ever implemented his request for a way to have Comet&lt;br /&gt;
copy some additional files to the %TEMP% folder at startup along with the Comet executables.&lt;br /&gt;
We did - way back in Comet 2011!  You supply the list in a file called CometUserFiles.dat that you&lt;br /&gt;
create in your Comet folder.  Here's a link to info on how do format the list [[http://wiki.signature.net/index.php/Comet.exe_options]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Robert reported that if you start a new Comet session from another, the windows cascade down the&lt;br /&gt;
screen rather than using the coordinates from the CosW.ini.  Brian says this is by design.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was reported that the target of a Comet shortcut can't be a UNC name.  Apparently this is because&lt;br /&gt;
Windows doesn't support UNC to itself.  Jeff says this is fixed in Windows 2012 Server and Alan&lt;br /&gt;
says he doesn't have this problem as long as file sharing is invoked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alan reported when he assigns a certain partition to a Comet Anywhere user the status on that user&lt;br /&gt;
indicates a PARTITION$ value of 9 less than what he assigned.  This requires further investigation&lt;br /&gt;
to understand.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg requested an easier way to SYSGEN.  Jim suggested he try simply typing SYSGEN COMET.INI from&lt;br /&gt;
QMONITOR.  Your Comet.ini file must reside in your Comet folder for this to work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also about SYSGEN, someone reported that there were problems with it unless each line in the .ini file&lt;br /&gt;
was terminated with a &amp;quot;;&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg requested a Comet uninstall program to remove all executables and registry entries.  This &lt;br /&gt;
request was denied.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frank Caton asked about how secure the CometAnywhere encryption was.  Brian explained that it uses&lt;br /&gt;
the public domain algorithm, Blowfish, and does both compression and encryption.  He feels that it&lt;br /&gt;
should be adequate for most installations unless you are subject to certain government regulations.&lt;br /&gt;
In that case you should implement a VPN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim reminded everyone that performance can be greatly improved by running a CometAnywhere host on&lt;br /&gt;
the same machine as the file server.  Then use CA clients instead of full Comet clients for the users.&lt;br /&gt;
This can be especially helpful for large installations.  Several customers host more than 100 CA&lt;br /&gt;
sessions from one host.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[Programming and Utilities]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Barb announced a new Source Search Utility for Comet32 UltraEdit users.  It will search your IB&lt;br /&gt;
source file including any imbedded usefiles for one or more specified strings.  You can request&lt;br /&gt;
case sensitivity and/or whole word matching.  This requires Comet32 version .476 and REL 13.05&lt;br /&gt;
or higher.  You can get more info here [[http://wiki.signature.net/index.php/Internet_Basic_Source_Search_for_UltraEdit]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Stan requested a Rich Edit Control for IB.  Brian explained that this is non-trivial because&lt;br /&gt;
we'd have to implement all the additional controls to support its features such as colors and&lt;br /&gt;
fonts.  There's also the issue of how to get large amounts of data back and forth.  Brian will&lt;br /&gt;
study it somemore.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg reported that since the implementation of Windows themes and the version 6.x of Windows&lt;br /&gt;
controls that his calendar control is no longer working as expected.  Since the meeting Brian&lt;br /&gt;
has investigated and found that Greg had been relying on an undocumented behavior of the Calendar&lt;br /&gt;
control that happened to work as a month picker. The updated controls were introduced in Comet&lt;br /&gt;
version .474.  If he must use this older control they will have to revert to CosW from .473.&lt;br /&gt;
We have no way to change the behavior of the Windows controls.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was some discussion about whether numeric CSV fields were being stripped properly.&lt;br /&gt;
Tests done by Grant during the meeting indicated that it was working as intended.  You &lt;br /&gt;
should use PRINT if you want stripping and WRITE if not.  STRIPFORMAT can be used to quickly&lt;br /&gt;
strip each field in a FORMAT (variations are STRIPRFORMAT and STRIPLFORMAT).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alan reported that CometExplorer was unusable on a very large directory because of how long it&lt;br /&gt;
takes to load the file names.  We all agree with that!  It was suggested that we have a quick&lt;br /&gt;
view option that would list only info from the QDIR (which is stored locally) rather than&lt;br /&gt;
waiting for the file server.  Alternatively offer the choice of loading only a range of files.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Steve asked for an easy way to copy files for CometAnywhere clients.  Two suggestions were&lt;br /&gt;
given.  First, use CUTLCPY.  This is a utility that was written by and donated to the Comet&lt;br /&gt;
community several years ago by Jon Sacks.  You can get all the info here [[http://www.signature.net/cutlcpy.html]].&lt;br /&gt;
Grant offered a second solution.  He wrote a replacement for DOSCOPY which he posted on the&lt;br /&gt;
forum for all to use.  Here's a link to more info and the files: [[http://support.signature.net/messages/19960.htm]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Louisa reported that the KEY function returns E33 for an extracted record.  Attempts to&lt;br /&gt;
reproduce this in the meeting were unsuccessful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frank Caton asked if there was a way to stretch a wallpaper image rather than have it tile.&lt;br /&gt;
Frank uses (Wallpaper Bitmap) to differentiate user logins and sees a problem when maximized.&lt;br /&gt;
Brian said he'd look in to this.  It may require a new mnemonic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[SymbioSystems and Comet Cloud]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It'll be very difficult to summarize the incredibly energetic presentation given to us by&lt;br /&gt;
Julian Sutter from SymbioSystems.  His company hosts our corporate virtual servers at &lt;br /&gt;
SymbioSystems' data center in San Francisco.  We've heard from several of you that you're getting&lt;br /&gt;
questions about cloud computing and virtual servers for Comet.  They can provide a very nice&lt;br /&gt;
solution for your customers.  They assume all the duties of an IT staff including hardware and software&lt;br /&gt;
installation and maintenance, backup, disaster recovery, and support.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Julian presented 2 different approaches you can take with running Comet in the cloud.  One involves&lt;br /&gt;
Signature Systems as well as SymbioSystems and the other just SymbioSystems.  The Signature&lt;br /&gt;
solution is a new product called Comet Cloud.  In this scenario a virtual server at SymbioSystems&lt;br /&gt;
will host your CometAnywhere host.  All Comet users will run CA clients.  This requires converting&lt;br /&gt;
your full Comet licenses to CA licenses.  The normal conversion fee will be waived for Comet Cloud&lt;br /&gt;
customers.  This change could result in a reduction of your annual Comet subscription fees since CA&lt;br /&gt;
licenses are less expensive to renew than full Comets.  Your monthly fee for the server includes all&lt;br /&gt;
IT services listed above plus Comet installation, updates, and support done for you by Signature&lt;br /&gt;
Systems staff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The other scenario is a more comprehensive &amp;quot;infrastructure as a service&amp;quot; solution.  SymbioSystems&lt;br /&gt;
can host virtual servers that replace existing on-site servers (and all of their local applications&lt;br /&gt;
and file sharing) and desktops for each of your users.  Users access their virtual desktops from a&lt;br /&gt;
variety of clients including 'computer-less' desktop thin clients and mobile devices.  They can keep&lt;br /&gt;
their current Comet configuration if they want.  The monthly fee includes everything listed above&lt;br /&gt;
except the Comet support.  SymbioSystems will work with you and your clients to keep your Comet&lt;br /&gt;
software up to date and running.  In this case you also pay a fee for each desktop hosted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pricing is configuration-dependent.  You should contact Julian Sutter to discuss your situation.&lt;br /&gt;
You can reach him at (415)814-5370 or jsutter@symbiosystems.com.&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Miscellaneous]]==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frank McKay asked for suggestions to replace Microsoft's Exchange Server.  Jeff suggested&lt;br /&gt;
Office 365.  Justin suggested GMAIL.  That's what we use.  Go Daddy may also have a solution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Greg requested that we guarantee a response time to problem submissions.  He says LOCIS does&lt;br /&gt;
this for its customers.  Jim declined to offer a guarantee and assured him we do our best to&lt;br /&gt;
address everyone's issues in a timely manner.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim announced that we may be able to begin accepting credit cards and bank transfers for payment.&lt;br /&gt;
Credit cards would incur a service charge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jim announced that we are reworking the Price List for next year.  We held off increasing prices&lt;br /&gt;
during the recession, but now we will need to do it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There was some discussion about how to get young programmers involved in Comet.  Louisa says&lt;br /&gt;
she has had some luck with college internships.  One criticism of computer science students&lt;br /&gt;
is that they have no knowledge of business applications.  It was suggested that interning&lt;br /&gt;
business majors with some programming experience might be an option.  It was agreed that having&lt;br /&gt;
one or more mobile IB APIs could be an enticement for new recruits.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lastly, we always conclude by choosing the destination for our next meeting.  Several cities&lt;br /&gt;
were mentioned but the concensus was for Kauai!  Mark your calendars for Spring 2015.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Barb</name></author>	</entry>

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